I only tighten as tight as necessary. I had a 69 Dodge pickup that I owned for about 15 years. Synthetic oil has much better flow characteristics. Me, being cheap … lol … I make my own oil pan washers from rubber gasket material. Oil leak crankcase drain plug. Get a spark-plug repair kit to install a Helicoil - fortunately the drain plug on TL is common thread used on spark plugs and there are kits specifically aimed at that repair. Start changing the oil by sucking it out the dip stick tube. got a good amount of shavings out). I prefer the rubber type b/c I’ve never had an case where it leaks after the proper torque is applied. It also … This filter drip is likely from past oil changes, as filter leaking on the 6.7L is usually only reported when the filters are not properly installed. Any ideas what I can do? Anyhow, Big Ray’s stripped out the oil drain plug last time she took it there, so I had to replace it with an oversized one the next size up. The Drain Plug (PN 2125890) is original, and I put a new orig Washer (PN 2268513) on the Plug. I’ve had that problem in industrial applications too where cast aluminum housings were used with screwed-in fittings installed. They did with reservations that it might leak. One time I made a oil pan washer for my truck from the sole of an old pair of flip flops. Unless I know the “mechanic” personally, I avoid the “Quikie Lube” places for just the problem you cite. Next time for an oil change, give them a new washer. Make sure its your oil drain plug. I’ll probably go to my local NAPA or non-big-box parts store where they have people who know a little more about cars and aren’t afraid of questions. 60 Get it as soon as Mon, Jan 11 FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped by … I’m not counting the first time I encountered a “left-handed” threaded lugnut on my 63’ Pontiac Grand Prix. If you don’t like what they have to say then you will know what you need to do. Author Topic: Oil Drain Plug Leaking (Read 10644 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Buddy over tightened his drain plug and cracked the bung. I think primary gasket could be leaking. I don’t want to replace the oil pan bc 1- I am not too confident to do it, 2- Auto service will charge me 1k for that. BMW reference part #'s: 51-71-8-195-383 Circlip 51-71-8-218-323 Screw plug These two parts are the underbody panel securing screw and metal clip that secures it to the plastic panels. I noticed the first time I changed the oil that the drain plug was rounded off and it leaked. I'm not sure does anyone experience this situation. They’ll often just install the used one and when it leaks their solution is to tighten the plug tighter. My questions are if it can’t be removed what are my options and given I am at 5000 miles what damage is being done with oil with that many miles. Double oversized bolt. This can weaken the threads. You did not state what this vehicle is but just relax until Goodyear has looked at it and see what they have to say. Anyone with some expertise have some alternate advice for me? So I replaced it and thought that would cure the problem. And even if a pan needed to be removed it would not need to be replaced. Do you have a rounded-off, stripped, or leaking drain plug? Well, I guess it would be technically incorrect to say I never broke a screw. Sometimes these will … Having a stripped oil pan drain plug is a very common problem on today’s vehicles. I really don't think this is a good solution, but might be a temporary fix. If you run into one that requires removal, one that could not be repaired with either an insert or an oversized self-tapping plug, and could post a photo, I would certainly reconsider, but until I actually see one I believe the referenced oil pan replacements are unnecessary. Ducati Scotty. Am I better off to tap … There are many cars out there where there is simply not enough room to drill and retap and use a thread insert while the oil pan is in the car. After reading your article on repairing strip oil drain plugs, I agree with option 2 replacing the strip drain plug with a new oversize plug rather than option 1, replacing the vehicle with a new oil pan. Discussion Starter • #1 • Jan 14, 2008. Good point, db. 2,672 Posts . Depending on how your drain plug is shaped, a rubber washer? Dorman 090-174 Oversize Oil Drain Plug - M12-1.50 S.O., Head Size 17mm, Pack of 5 3.7 out of 5 stars 54 $13.60 $ 13. My wife drives an '02 Ford Escape XLT V6 4x4. 2000 Gr. If it is running down from somewhere above, there will be a trace of oil across the white powder. The best way to make absolutely sure the leak is coming from the oil drain plug is the area thoroughly with spray carb/brake cleaner, then spray it good with Arrid Extra Dry, which turns into a white powder. In re: the OP – if there’s any question about the washer, replacing it is the place to start. What burns me is that I have to drive almost 40 miles RT plus pay more for this oil change to happen as the place I got the previous place was next to where I use to work, or otherwise I wouldn’t have gone there. Hi guys. I might give it a shot. I don't know why but the plug is hardened steel and the pan is aluminum, you figure out which will give out first. It’s a temporary fix. That seemed to work, but I ended up still getting a leak. How to install an oversized drain plug. Try a metal washer (perhaps your maintenace manual has the specs). I simply do not have the time to mess with idiots who screwed this up twice already. If you have record of them doing your last oil change (when the plug was still fine), contact a lawyer and see about getting the oil change place to pay for your new oil pan. It’s a temporary fix. 426 Posts #2 • May 7, 2003. John Wayne: 12/8/01 10:52 PM: Anybody know if there is an oversize self taping drain plug that will work on a 96 Dyna Wide Glide? *Note if you’ve used an oversized drain plug this kit may not be large enough because the hole would have been enlarged. I guess @brm7675 is not going to clarify what his vehicle is. This Oversize Drain Plug works so well, I ordered 2 more to fix the rest of the cars that suffered from quick oil change artists before I … After completing the oil change, I was draining old oil into canisters for disposal and found a washer which I assume is the washer for the drain plug (which I didn't notice while draining the old oil). Well when I removed the drain plug the pans threads were still on the drain plug..I really don't want to buy a new pan($110.00) and it looks as if the exhaust will have to … Double-oversize is the largest I’ve heard of, and may not be available for all sizes. If at some point you can’t get a larger drain plug and it still leaks, the options are to tap the hole in the pan … Knifenmore, I have a breaker bar that I’d bet will break it loose. Another option is an oversize plug. Rubber plugs are not considered as reliable as threaded metal ones. kits are under $30 and … They said it would hold and not leak, but 3 weeks after bringing it home (no, I haven't ridden it since I brought it home) there seems to be oil all over my garage floor and the drain plug is oily. I don’t remember if I replaced the washer when I replaced the plug, but knowing myslef I would hope I was not stupid enough to just hope I could use the old one. Members Profile. I went to change my oil on my 525 and noticed the drain bolt was not very tight, which I thought was odd, but it wasn't leaking. Sometimes if an oil pan is stripped out the only recourse is to remove the pan. If your M12x1.75 oil drain pan already had a failed helicoil, the only option we can offer is to use the M14x1.5 drain plug kit p/n 1415A to enlarge the thead size from the factory M12x1.75 to M14x1.5. It is my experience that helicoils are … On another note, I've seen where you put a new crush washer on the drain plug and tighten it to specs and it still leaks. This got the leak down to approx. How to fix a leaking oil drain plug in your car, DIY with Scotty Kilmer. Well, I alternated between the garage and the auto parts store. I’ve seen drain holes with long holes, I seem to recall my daughter’s Civic as being horizontal with a surprisingly deep threaded drain hole. Your order may be eligible for Ship to Home, and shipping is free on all online … I wen to O'Reilly and purchase 1) Single oversized M12 1.5 Single Oversized 2) M12 1.75 Double Oversized 3) 1/2" Universal. She takes it to Big Ray’s Quick Lube for oil changes since this one time, right after we were married, I had a particularly hard time changing the oil on a completely different car and ended up in the garage for about 6 hours. First I want to say that my English isn't that good, hope you guys understand. http://www.timesert.com/html/drainplug.html. … lol. Went back and they removed plug, installed new "O" ring and refilled Primary with new oil. It’s possible that the threads are weakened, but if it were mine I’d prepare with a self-tapping oversize plug and hoe they aren’t If they are, chances are that they’ll fail when changing oil and not drop the plug out on the road. Screw until tight, don't … Anyone know what size the drain bolt would be? Anecdotal single data point: I had one in a old Thunderbird and it never leaked a drop in 4 years. Replace drain bolt with longer bolt maybe will stop leak? Change the gasket or O ring on the plug. A new plug is ~$3. A loose, leaky or damaged oil drain plug can cause unsightly stains on your driveway, as well as reducing the amount of oil in your engine. Oil drain plug leak. KENO . 380Lover 380Lover. If you find oil streaks or puddles on the cardboard in the morning, then that’s a sign that there’s an active leak. Every time we’d go out knowing we had to remove the panel we’d call the airframes shop before going and they’d meet us at the aircraft prepared to extract the shanks. This method works for most applications. so, i'm guess that the oil pan itself has some … Everything went just fine, however today I took it to another place to get the oil changed as I am at about 5000 miles since last change. At the moment, I'm nearly jumping up and down … Here’s why. Any shop that does oil changes also has a selection of drain plugs on hand for $5 each. If it is not, you may need to take it to the mechanic to repair damaged threads using special tools. I changed the remaining “lugs from hell” the next day to the “right handed” variety. We’ve seen a number of posts here where owners are told their oil pans need replacing for hundreds of dollars because the drain hole is stripped. If you’re lucky, that will take care of it. I remain unconvinced that an oil pan in any common road car needs to be removed to repair stripped threads. You drill the stripped threads out, tap threads into the new hole, then thread in the heli-coil. Stripped my oil drain plug threads - like an idiot. I prefer to pump the oil out anyways and wanted to replace the drain kit with a drain plug. HOWEVER, if you end up being told the drain hole threads are stripped, be aware that you don’t need a new pan. If so, then pick up one of these Dorman oil pan drain … The plug and the threads in the bung hole both get washed in oil during the process and the plug gets reinstalled that way. Even if the head completely rounds, weld a nut to it and get it out. This is my first time oil change and I failed . Well they can be over tightened. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. The leak should be addressed promptly. I am really concerned since I don't want to take the risk of running low on oil and damaging the engine. I really doubt the original oil change claim that the drain plug was rusted, because those threads are constantly covered in oil (it's an 'OIL' pan!) After using this kit, the repaired aluminum oil pan will still accept the original size drain plug M18x1.5. Run it in without a washer to tap the threads on the pan and then wipe the threads on the pan and the washer. I’ve attached a link to perhaps the most well known repair kit (there are others) and, frankly, a good shop should have everything needed to retap the hole and put a helicoil in. I highly recommend this product. The place today told me that the previous place tightened the drain plug so tight they can not get it off without fear of stripping the plug… I did my research and this is what I found: 1. Back in late August I took my car to the local Goodyear shop to have my oil changed. Opps sorry it’s a 2003 Kampala that burns about a quart of oil over 3000 miles but right now levels are fine as I check all fluids weekly. An oversize drain plug simply doesn’t cut deep enough threads. It was strictly a work truck and maybe had the oil changed 5 times when I owned it. I will grant you that I’ve only changed oil on perhaps three or four dozen different vehicles total, but I’ve never seen one that would be unable to repair on the engine. 1. So, it was stripped, and they do not make a double-oversized plug for this model. I called the previous place who said they doubt it could be that tight, but they will look at it next week. A helicoil is a great way to fix stripped threads. For less than $ 10, worth a look, IMHO. So to make a long story short, as the were changing the oil, the stripped the drain plug and stated they could fix it by retapping the hole and sticking a helicoil in it. I doubt that you will beable to keep going up in the size of the oil plug with out drilling and retaping. My most recent attempt at repairs was to wrap the Plug 3 times (clockwise) around with Teflon plumbers tape. That's all. I chased the threads with an m8x1.25 tap but there's just not enough metal left to get any torque on the drain bolt and it's leaking oil even with a fresh aluminum washer. Need a new bolt or something? If at some point you can’t get a larger drain plug and it still leaks, the options are to tap the hole in the pan to a larger plug size (if possible), replace the pan, or get a rubber plug. My son in-law had his oil changed and then tried to do it himself and could not get the plug out no matter what he tried. 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